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I just read through your site, it's very interesting
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Anything in particular you'd like to know more about?
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are you guys familiar with the concept of daemons?
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I've heard of them, they're a type of thoughtform similar to tulpas
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philip pullman sort, not the biblical kind
2:20 AM
the similarities between the two are remarkable
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I do have a question about tulpas though
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 2:25 AM
Fire away
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do you discover your tulpa? Like with daemons?
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Tulpas are traditionally created intentionally
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 2:26 AM
^
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Ninja'd bleh
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so they are a choice, not a discovery of an aspect of the self
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Most people consider tulpas to be separate entities from themselves entirely
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very similarly to daemons
2:28 AM
do you have any questions about them?
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I know the gist of it
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what got you into tulpas?
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My host saw a YouTube video about them and then looked into it more
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 2:29 AM
I found them on a random completely unrelated discord server -.-
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And then yeah (edited)
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Looked in more
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I found them through a creepypasta
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And somehow that made me curious
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you call your person a host?
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yep, that's a common term in the tulpa community
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intriguing
2:33 AM
that's an interesting way to identify them
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and there's no negative connotation with calling them a host? forgive my ignorance
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no negative connotation whatsoever
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alright. how many can exist in a person/host at a time?
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:37 AM
At a sustainable rate? 2-4 for most
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Less sustainable? Way, way too many.
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For us it's just Misaka and I, and she's not always that present
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used to have way more constructs of sentience and thoughts and moods n stuff in our head tho
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even that seems like a lot. Most of us only have one daemon.
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:39 AM
Most host only have one tulp
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:39 AM
1-2 is the norm
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4 is like
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:39 AM
But some people have morr
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:39 AM
the max
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before you loose sanity in return
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at least
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thats how it was for us
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Larger numbers are either severely undeveloped or not sentient at all
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:40 AM
yeah that too
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do they change form?
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:40 AM
Some do
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A form is really not necessary though
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Some don't even have a form
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Towaka ~暗い~ 8/29/2018 2:41 AM
Ya
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:41 AM
I've only ever had 3 developed tups in my head, and only one is still present enough to be considered active, one is pretty much gone, and one is very much in flux
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why are they mostly human form, if they have one?
2:42 AM
some daemons don't have a constant form either
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:43 AM
Probably because it is easy to think of yourself as human when you live in a human body
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:43 AM
If I may join in, yeah, thats pretty much the jist of it
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Having a human form kind of puts you on a symbols equal playing field to the host. Most people consider tulpas equal to the host
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:44 AM
im Zoey's remaining tulpa
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When I had a dragon form I had a pretty different mindset to when I adopted a human form. It gave me more opportunities and made me feel like I was on the same level of everyone else
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Odd, not in a bad way, just different. We find humans more difficult to project, which is why daemons are generally animals.
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:44 AM
I'm honestly super duper undeveloped
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also
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tulpas are often considered from a completely brain-generated point of view
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as in like uhhh
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Abvieon {Alex} 8/29/2018 2:45 AM
I'm a host and I don't have a human mind form shrugblob
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:45 AM
no gods, no souls, no magic, only brain fuckery! or something
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idk
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I've met one person with a human daemon
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:47 AM
the little we use mind forms, I take on the appearance of an anime girl who I share a name relation to, and Zoey sorta doesn't have a fixed form, but is very much humanoid and femme in appearance
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:49 AM
I suppose that we are kind of rare in the regard that we are this sort of fringe group, yet we actually try to use the scientific method and think critically
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:49 AM
well
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some of us do
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and get our brains tied up in mental knots
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because a machine can not understand itself and stuff
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:49 AM
I would argue that most of us try to
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:49 AM
we can always aproximate
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but like
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we really don't know much about why it all works?
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:50 AM
Though all of us have been unable to find proof that they work a certain way
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I bet that we will understand our brains at some point (edited)
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V∆L-H∆L8 8/29/2018 2:51 AM
Is the form you take After aware of that? (edited)
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:51 AM
after a point we kinda stopped caring about the details of why and how
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and just tried to lets just live n shit
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but ofc zoey is a trash heap when it comes to taking care of our body and mind
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she's a sweetheart tho
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just bad at managing anything
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do you have any questions for us?
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:54 AM
all I know is that tulpas and hosts and any sort of personality layer are just as real or fake as one another
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either its all real
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Breloomancer 8/29/2018 2:54 AM
How is a deamon different from a tulpa?
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Interrobang System 8/29/2018 2:54 AM
or its all fake
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and that includes those singlet peoples
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Trouble here is that you have to be clear on what the difference is between real and fake
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A daemon normally comes about when you become more aware of yourself. They are part of your subconscious initially, but after awhile they become an independent extension, with their own personality, likes/dislikes, and opinions. Even Match's speech pattern is different from mine.
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A lot of us
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Basically a tulpa
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"discover" our daemons in our early-mid teens. They grow and mature as you do, which is usually symbolized with the changing of their forms.
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Most people go through several different forms before they find ones that "fit" them the best.
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I think that would be the only difference really is the changing of the forms and their animalistic identities
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anything else anyone is curious about?
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